2017 Honda Civic Type R

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2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by DPL8 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:43 pm

Hello,

This season i have retired my trusty but aging 2009 Civic Si for a 2017 Civic Type R.

I cannot select the car in the Classification tool, assuming it has not been added yet.

Most of the modifications are minor like tires wheels brake pads a rear sway bar and some different springs.

Would love to know where this car is going to be classes so i can start fabricating some stickers haha!


looking forward to 2019!

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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by paultg » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:04 pm

Shoot an email to rules@comscc.org and they should be able to help you.
I heard they are only allowed in Super Class. 😃😂
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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by Aricracer » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:48 am

Any update on the Type R classification ?
May be a 2019 that wants to run with he club this year,
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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by SandyClam » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:05 pm

My guess would be a base class of T70, not sure if the rules alias got back to you but I'd think that's a good fit for the car.

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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by Dtangard » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:13 pm

Hi guys. We took care of the points offline. The 2017 Civic Type R comes out to 78.1 points. It'll be in the 2020 Rule Book.
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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by DPL8 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:09 am

Hey,

There must have been some sort of confusion because i am looking at a 2019 civic type r that is registered for NHMS and it is apparently in T60? is it a T60 or T70 car because that changes everything from a classing standpoint....


Thanks!

Eddy

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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by paultg » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:12 pm

DPL8 wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:09 am
Hey,

There must have been some sort of confusion because i am looking at a 2019 civic type r that is registered for NHMS and it is apparently in T60? is it a T60 or T70 car because that changes everything from a classing standpoint....


Thanks!

Eddy
Eddy, talk with an event steward on Saturday. The car you are questioning is probably a few 100 lbs over curb weight (so neg points back), and might also be on a tire that gives some points back. So if it was a base assessment of low 70 points, it could be high 60s in points depending on setup.

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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by gcranston » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:26 pm

paultg wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:12 pm
The car you are questioning is probably a few 100 lbs over curb weight (so neg points back), and might also be on a tire that gives some points back. So if it was a base assessment of low 70 points, it could be high 60s in points depending on setup.
Stock it comes with 245 Conti SportContact 6 (UTQG 240) so that's -7 points for compound and -1.3 for section right there. More points for weight of driver and fluids. It could easily drop into the T60's if it's mostly stock.

Apparently the fronts take a beating: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2861 ... tire-wear/
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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by DPL8 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:49 pm

Will do. Interesting that it started as a 78.1 but now is much lower...

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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by gcranston » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:55 pm

That's how the classing works out for all cars. The showroom assessment assumes certain tire section (by class) and compound (zero-point for all cars), and the curb-weight. Because not all gas tanks are full, and not all COMers weigh the same, we also adjust weight. Near-stock cars on street tires will e running below their baseline assessment. My BRZ has 52 points showroom assessment but I'm able to run in T30 with the right tires and competition weight.
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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by DPL8 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:16 am

Gotcha...

I must be doing my weight wrong or have the tires in the wrong category for stock.

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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by gcranston » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:47 am

If your tires aren't specifically listed, use the UTQG number (and tire section) to assess points. If they are listed then use that entry. For weight, you can make a reasonable guess at how much your competition weight exceeds your curb weight by adding your weight and 6 lbs/gallon of fuel. Better to underestimate than overestimate. You can check at a TT next year as COM now has scales!

Email the stewards if you have more questions.
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Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

Post by DPL8 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:37 am

I actually did go on the scales this past weekend and to my surprise i was very close !

I am now understanding what i did differently!

Thanks for the help!


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